“Conventional Wisdom”
A.V. Walters–
Conventional wisdom says that bees located in the shade will be cranky. Conventional wisdom says that bees that get too hot in the full sun, will be unproductive and may tend to swarm. We’ve seen hot bees in the sun. They “beard” on the outside of the hive. Once the sun is up–and the heat–they return to the hive and quit foraging. What’s the point? The nectar dries up. Back at the hive, it’s too hot to go in. Other bees are busy, cooling the hive with the wind from myriad wings. What would conventional wisdom have us do?
We have relocated the bee yard up the hill and into the pines. There were plenty of reasons to do it: to avoid wind blown pesticide contamination from the adjacent farmer down at the bottom of the hill; to put more distance between the bees and any neighbors; so that the bees would not be visible from the road (some of our beekeeping friends have experienced thefts!); to get the bees out of the direct sun during the hottest part of the summer; and to reduce bee “issues” in the garden, that can lead to gardeners being inadvertently stung.
I’ll miss being able to see them from the house. Bee hives have a way of saying, “here we are, and we belong.” This is the first year that the orchard really looks like an orchard–and that, along with the garden, will have to satisfy our visual boundaries. The bees’ new digs enjoy the dappled light of the pines–and a regular refreshing breeze. It’s only a few minutes walk, one that will pull us into the forest with more regularity. And it’ll be cooler for us, too, during the dog days of summer. Often beekeeping requires suiting up–and those extra layers can be really stifling in the heat.
Rick put up the new fence. Then he marked it with ribbon tape to alert the deer. Not that they’d have any reason to invade, but we’ve had problems with deer colliding into fences and tree cages, if they weren’t marked. You’d think the fence would be enough… but those deer aren’t looking. A deer can really mangle a tree cage. The fence is really for the bear, and it’ll deliver quite the jolt. I hope it’s enough to dissuade them. There are three hives, now. By mid-season, we hope to split them–for six, going into winter.
We moved the bees in, this morning. They were a little crabby at first. But by the end of the day they had settled nicely. I’m sure there will be some adjustments as we all adjust to new routines. It’s beautiful up there. I hope the bees enjoy it. By my estimation, they have nothing to be cranky about.
(Really, only three hives. That tall stack is extra honey supers for when the nectar flow really starts.)
Relocating bees—now that’s a day’s adventure! Glad it went well. It’s so nice to have warm weather again.
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It seems we went from winter to summer without spring in between.
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Here as well (yet again): How can “some people” not notice this??
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I’m with Carrie. I’d need a full body suit. Who knew bees were so complicated?
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One of the things I like about bees is that, the more you learn, the more you know that you have a lot to learn. Oh, yeah, and honey.
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Hey there, glad to hear things are progressing on the hive front but here’s a little “non-conventional” wisdom from my 3rd gen beekeeping mentor… He was taught that splits are best done in Spring when the Dandelions bloom… (When the queens are in “There’s nectar flow finally! We’ve got lots of Maple and Willow pollen packed away now, so let’s get cracking on laying eggs for brood production! YeeHaw!”
Right now, there’s lots happening in the supers but, because there are much lower numbers and they’re very busy doing what they’re doing, they won’t really pay you as much attention as later, when there’s so much messy honey to get in the way (not to mention MUCH stronger hives – many Summer bees getting pissed off because you’re messing up their beautiful honey-packed frames AND STEALING their hard-won Winter Stores! (Makes for very UNhappy bees): Now is the time to split strong, established hives to prevent swarming. In Fall, you want the hives as strong as possible, with loads of honey stores and everything all buttoned-down and sealed shut going into Winter. Don’t worry, as long as you keep the large predators away (like bears and skunks) they know how to prepare themselves. It’s the other things that we’ve allowed into the hive; “imported” diseases and bee parasites like European Foul Brood, Small Hive Beetle, Varroa Destructor & Tracheal Mites that cause the most problems. And don’t even get me started on how all of these normal problems are being compounded by the complications of Neuro-toxic insecticides in the fields, in our gardens, on our animals and in the hive…
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Just let your little packages (they’re packages you bought, I think?) or Nukes/Nucs (nucleus hives) to grow, establish themselves and get strong enough to be ready for winter. Then, after they make it through the winter, you’ll have lots of splitting to do when the Dandelions bloom next year; )
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Nucs–we reserve the split decision until we see how they do. One of them is very large and busy–we’ll keep an eye out.
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Hmm… If only one is busy, you’ll also need to keep an eye on them for robbing behaviour (plundering from the weaker hive) as well or perhaps even consider amalgamation of the two, by Fall…
And, just curious, you said they came with mites… (really?!?) Was it that both were infested and one seems to be dealing better with them? Because there’s a term, “sanitary” bees: those (from a queen) who are inclined to be more fastidious about hive cleanliness and grooming; which also means they dispose of mites (chalk brood, wax moth) better on their own and are therefore naturally more “resistant”. In some cases, the bees are learning to not only pick off mites, but also bite and kill them (a VERY desirable trait: )
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Eyes are open. If mites are a problem, we’ll consider re-queening in late July with monkfast queens.
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Oh yeah, and the bee beard outside is not only cooling the hive, they’re also helping to evaporate excess moisture out of the freshly harvested nectar in order to be able to make it honey and seal the combs. Loads of great info here: https://beemaniacs.com/2015/04/18/cells-cells-and-cells/
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Yes, I know, but you should have seen them last year–more beard than hive. That cannot be good. I visited them this morning–in their new digs–and despite unseasonably warm temperatures (muggy, and over 85 degrees F at 10:30 am) the bees were happy and busy. The move has been good for them.
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By the way, if I’m reiterating stuff you already know, I’m just tossing everything at you here; so no offence intended, right?: )
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No offense taken–and it’s always okay to state the obvious, because some readers come to this with no information. It is and educational forum.
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Awesome, good to know, thank you: )
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Happiest, most productive hive ever? Was facing south, located directly behind a couple of really old wild pear trees: so protected in Summer by lovely dappled shade, but full sun in winter; with a large pine to the west as a year-round wind break and protection from the heat of summer afternoons… Oh and yeah, and there was a little stream just on the other side of the pear trees. It was such a lovely place to work: )
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Oh, I didn’t want it to be a deciding factor, but beekeeper comfort will be much better here. Your best-ever hive sounds much like their new home…except that the stream is a little further away. I’ll keep them with nearby water.
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All the “creature comforts”, lol; )
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No, that’s definitely a good point about “beekeeper comfort”… They can sense discomfort a mile away, so everybody’s happier when you’re comfortable; )
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Right. It’s about the bees. (Hah!)
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I have all of my hives in partially cleared areas of a pine and deciduous mix and they all have some degree of protection at different times of the day. During the winter they receive the most sun which is probably good. During the summer I do have to battle the small hive beetle but I suspect no worse than anyone else locally. Plus I’ve learned that watchful eyes on the SHB early in the season makes a big difference and I have few issues.
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I was warned that the SHB would be more likely in the pines–never have seen them before.
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It looks a great spot to me. The most important is that it is only a few minutes walk away. We talk to our girls a few times a day. Amelia
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Hey there! Wondering if you follow Ron Mishka from Bad Beekeeping? Here’s his latest – and first of at least two posts – about packages… https://badbeekeepingblog.com/2018/06/02/a-depleted-home/
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Yes, I love his posts.
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